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Wed Jul 1 18:06:02 EDT 2020

Ted Crammer wrote:

> At 8:42 PM -0500 8/10/98, alan c. walter wrote:
> >The beings Fury is stemming from having been conned into committing a
> >violation.
> That's very real to me. So do you run it overt and motivator?
> Zero question: Was it about a code? a principle? a virtue?
> What about conning a being into a (code, principle, virtue) violation.
> Humm... This might run pretty good...
> Ted

The question that seems to work best is:

Just prior to the Fury what did you violate?

As most of our people are aware of code, principle, virtue, etc. they
usually spot the violation immediately.

Then run: What have been the consequences of .....(the named

The o/w's just fly off.


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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but 
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.

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