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Wed Oct 14 12:06:09 EDT 2020


Clearing Archive Roboposter <roboposter at> wrote:
>    Meatballs in motion...
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> Brains Against the Robots
> The idiocy of the Turing test and its descendants is that an infinite
> amount of idiocy will add up to an average amount of intelligence.  The
> idiocy which this has spawned is the notion that perception and
> awareness can be achieved by multiplying non-perception and
> unawareness.

      Indeed.  The self luminous perception of consciousness can not be 
replicated by the mechanical learning by being an effect of the material 

      "Love and shame can not of force and mass be made."

      This is part of the machine medium theorem, that if a whole can do 
something then it is merely coralling the same ability in one or more of 
its parts to do that same thing in a more useful manner.

      All of mechanics is channling ability, not creating ability.

      Pain is not force, and so machines made only of force and mass
can't feel pain.  Mere complexity can not violate the something can't
come from nothing rule.

     All of emergent behavior obscurists to the contrary.


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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but 
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.

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