WHAT DETERMINES HOW YOU FEEL v2.0

HomerWSmith at lightlink.com HomerWSmith at lightlink.com
Sat Jan 19 17:50:22 EST 2013


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     WHAT DETERMINES HOW YOU FEEL?

> OT XV (OT XVI?)
> Certainty of the future.
> 
> Is this not known now?  Do you know the OT IX to OT XII ones?

      They are not publically released, and no I don't know them.

      But you know OT VIII is basically

      What determines how you feel?

      If you can get someone to put an 'other determinism' there enough,
he will suddenly find he is determining the other determinism to be
there.

      Knowing by looking flip flops to looking by knowing.

      That's the observation/consideration flip flop.

      There are two opposing definitions of To Determine.

      The first is to learn by being an EFFECT what it out there.

      The second is to CAUSE what is out there.

      To determine by looking moves into to determine by causing.

      That is the purpose of auditing.

      The preclear is going "What's there?  What's there?" trying
to determine or find out what is there.

      The auditor goes well ok "Put a cat there.  Good, did you
put a cat there?" and the preclear goes "Wow there's a cat there!"

      The preclear determined that there will be a cat there,
and then determned or verified there was a cat there.

      So he is now operating both sides of To Determine.

      That is way higher than "What's there?" effect, effect, effect.

      Run the following with "Get the idea of ...".

      "There is NO   DETERMINING"
      "There is SOME DETERMINING"   Run both definitions

      Run truth with

      "There is NO   TRUTH."
      "There is SOME TRUTH."

      Run Character with:

      "There is NO   Author"
      "There is SOME Author"
      "There is NO   Character"
      "There is SOME Character"

      Future is the same way:

      "There is NO   FUTURE."      Run PAST and PRESENT too.
      "There is SOME FUTURE."

      "There is NO   CAUSE"        Run on OTHER CAUSE also.
      "There is SOME CAUSE"

      All the complexity in auditing is a waste of time.

      The higher the OT level, the simpler the issue and the simpler the
auditing to run it.

      Sometimes you gotta run refused, no, inhibited, enforced, desired,
curious about, known about, and source of.  But most often NO and SOME
work just fine.

      "There is NO   BRAIN"
      "There is SOME BRAIN"

      "There is NO PROOF"
      "There is SOME PROOF"

      The real answer to the prove it cases is to give them a solo
process they can run for a few hours across many days, that will show
that "Scn is good thing and ought to be continued".

      Much better than dropping an atom bomb on their soul.

      The OT's who HAVE power are nervous about it and how is someone who
doesn't have power going to respond to it.

      It's one thing to move the marble on the table, quite another to
move a meatball to reason about it.

      Fools rush in where Angels dare not tread and God's go crying for
their mama.

      Homer

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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but 
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.

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